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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #765
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 8 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 765
-
- Today's Topics:
- Amateur calls on auto license plates?
- antenna installation in 94 Ford Chateau Van
- Drake a+ test&Packard Bell
- F.E.M.A. Freq. (2 msgs)
- IPS Daily Report - 08 July 94
- Micor cabinet keys
- QSL addresses - please help
- Radios for Emergency Use
- Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work? (2 msgs)
- Satellites seen from Earth
- Sock Size Conversion Chart: Inches/CM
- Weather Radio freqs? (2 msgs)
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 17:24:28 GMT
- From: sdl!newsgw.mentorg.com!srp!jbate@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Amateur calls on auto license plates?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article 8tm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu, dhughes@prairienet.org (Dan Hughes) writes:
- >
- >I see a lot of vehicles with ham calls on their plates, but I am wary of
- >doing this for fear that the specialized plates are a billboard to
- >thieves that there might be expensive radio equipment in the vehicle.
- >
- >Any comments pro or con? Thanks! ---Dan, N9XDK
- >--
-
-
- You are absolutely right. Also, thieves can look up your address in
- the callbook and have a field day while you are in your car.
-
- I haven't had a problem with this yet....
-
- I suggest that you remove your equipment from your car if you
- leave it and make it obvious that you did. I typically leave
- the coax connector and power cord visible and not connected
- to the radio (which is in my briefcase or back pocket).
-
- If you have more than a handheld, well, then good luck.
-
- 73's
-
- john, ki7hs/4
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 02:45:27 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- Subject: antenna installation in 94 Ford Chateau Van
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Has anyone had success installing an antenna in a Chateau Van? If so
- I would appreciate any hints as to how to get to roof, run wires etc.
- Since this is so specific, it would probably be reasonable to respond
- by email.
-
- Bob Dunne
- 908-582-6589
- dunne@physics.att.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 20:43:23 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!xmission!u.cc.utah.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Drake a+ test&Packard Bell
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Anyone ever take this test?
- I need study material desperatly
- thanks
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 23:34:24 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: F.E.M.A. Freq.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <199407082039.NAA05034@ucsd.edu> dwilson@s850.mwc.EDU (David L. Wilson) writes:
- > >>The list of FEMA freqs posted to this group contains various error.
- > >>In particular, who ever typed the list had their right hand placed
- > >>one key right of where it should be when typind the freq for F-24 to
- > >>F-27. For example, the day primary calling channel of 10493 was
- > >>mistyped as 10483. Also, 10194 (mistyped as 10184 was listed twice).
- >
- > > Nahhh! That's just BOB GROVE(proper reverence shown)"encoding"
- > >his frequency lists to make sure nobody rips HIM off!!!! (:->
- >
- > I am not sure what you mean and it may mislead some. The Grove
- > list I have says 10493 as I have stated and I know from monitoring
- > that that is correct. Either 10483 is a typo of a different Grove list
- > or a typo by the person who posted the list. Anyway, 10493 is the
- > correct frequency.
-
- Why were they even posted here? Wouldn't rec.radio.scanner be the
- appropriate newsgroup for such lists? This group will become a mess
- of scannerists start posting their favorite freqs.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Jul 1994 01:15:05 GMT
- From: koriel!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!pongo!myers@ames.arpa
- Subject: F.E.M.A. Freq.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article Anq@news.Hawaii.Edu, jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
- >In article <199407082039.NAA05034@ucsd.edu> dwilson@s850.mwc.EDU (David L. Wilson) writes:
- >> >>The list of FEMA freqs posted to this group contains various error.
- >> >>In particular, who ever typed the list had their right hand placed
- >> >>one key right of where it should be when typind the freq for F-24 to
- >> >>F-27. For example, the day primary calling channel of 10493 was
- >> >>mistyped as 10483. Also, 10194 (mistyped as 10184 was listed twice).
- >>
- >> > Nahhh! That's just BOB GROVE(proper reverence shown)"encoding"
- >> >his frequency lists to make sure nobody rips HIM off!!!! (:->
- >>
- >> I am not sure what you mean and it may mislead some. The Grove
- >> list I have says 10493 as I have stated and I know from monitoring
- >> that that is correct. Either 10483 is a typo of a different Grove list
- >> or a typo by the person who posted the list. Anyway, 10493 is the
- >> correct frequency.
- >
- >Why were they even posted here? Wouldn't rec.radio.scanner be the
- >appropriate newsgroup for such lists? This group will become a mess
- >of scannerists start posting their favorite freqs.
-
-
- I thought I some pirate CB operators on these FEMA frequencies the
- other day....
-
- ;-)
-
- ---
- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
- * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
- * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
- * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 23:20:52 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 08 July 94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 08/2330Z JULY 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 08 JULY AND FORECAST FOR 09 JULY - 11 JULY
-
- No IPS Disturbance Warning is current
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 086/029
-
- GOES satellite data for 07 Jul
- Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 2.4E+06
- Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.4E+04
- Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 2.7E+07
- X-ray background: A6.0
- Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 09 Jul 10 Jul 11 Jul
- Activity Low Very low Very low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 09 Jul: 085/027
-
- 1C. SOLAR COMMENT
- None.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 07 Jul
- Learmonth 04 2221 1111
- Fredericksburg 06 20
- Planetary 12 16
-
- Observed Kp for 07 Jul: 3433 4333
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 09 Jul 07 Quiet.
- 10 Jul 07 Quiet to unsettled.
- 11 Jul 07 Quiet to unsettled.
-
- 2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
- None.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 08 Jul normal normal normal
- PCA Event : None.
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 09 Jul normal normal normal
- 10 Jul normal normal normal
- 11 Jul normal normal normal
- 3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
- NONE.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- MUFs at Sydney were near predicted monthly values
-
- Observed T-index for 08 Jul: 29
-
- Predicted Monthly T-index for July is 30.
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 09 Jul 30 Near predicted monthly values.
- 10 Jul 30 Near predicted monthly values.
- 11 Jul 30 Near predicted monthly values.
-
- 4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
- None.
-
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:19:03
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!mbarts.bevb.blacksburg.va.us!mbarts@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Micor cabinet keys
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Someone broke into our repeater building and stole the key to our repeater
- cabinet (of all things!). Of course we don't have a duplicate.
-
- The repeater is a Motorola Micor in its cabinet. Does anybody know if the
- locks on these things is uniquely keyed or is it a generic key? We have a
- key blank but no way of knowing how to cut it. Anyone have experience with
- these things?
-
- Mike KB4NT
- mbarts@vt.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 23:04:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mac17@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL addresses - please help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <MUHHuAqJBh107h@rcp.co.uk>, scott@rcp.co.uk (Scott Earle) wrote:
- >
- > Could anyone tell me the addresses for the following stations?
- >
- > 6Y5GR
- > FM5GN
- > FG5BG
- > HT1T
- > and CO1RG
- >
- > Thank you very much for any help,
- >
- > 73 de Scott
- >
- Scott, I can't help you on these calls, but I think you have given an
- example of a possible need for a newsgroup devoted to QSLing--callsign
- server updates, QSL routes, hams who have changed addresses, problems
- encountered with foreign mail systems, etc. Anyone else think this is worth
- an RFD?
-
- Charles
- N9SQE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 94 16:13:33 -0800
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!vax.sonoma.edu!harrisok@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radios for Emergency Use
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul8.122745.24104@clark.dgim.doc.ca>, Don Haines writes:
-
- > Same problem, but not as bad. VHF and UHF radios tend to be "line of sight".
- > Try picking up that repeater as you canoe down that steep canyon.
-
- You do have a point here. Sometimes you actually have to get out of the canoe
- and hike up a hill to hit a repeater... :)
-
- Another option is a 20 meter QRP transceiver (if you have the license...)
- They are small and 20 meters is a good band to contact someone on most any day.
-
- My 2 cents worth...
-
- Ken Harrison
- N6MHG
- email: harrisok@sonoma.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:42:04 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >>CW lids, they are there, but rare. Nothing a 250Hz filter can't handle!
- >
- >Very, very rare.
- >
- >The fact that we see Generals, Advanced, and Extras breaking laws on
- >HF show that CW is not a lid-filter; in fact that shows that *anyone*
- >can learn CW!! But those who devote most of their on-the-air time
- >to CW rarely are the lawbreakers. As I've said on here for the
- >last couple of years I've never read in the pages of QST of a
- >CW op receiving a NAL from the FCC.
- >
- >Jeff NH6IL
-
- So since it appears that most of the lids are the SSB ops who learned CW
- but never used it, then having them retake a cw test to renew their license would
- force the lids to have to maintain a knowledge of the code, thus making them
- non-lids? :-)
-
- Earl Morse
- KZ8E
- kz8e@bangate.compaq.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 23:48:10 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <77370012434n12@131.168.114.12> Earl=Morse%EMC=Srvc%Eng=Hou@bangate.compaq.com writes:
- >
- >So since it appears that most of the lids are the SSB ops who learned CW
- >but never used it, then having them retake a cw test to renew their license would
- >force the lids to have to maintain a knowledge of the code, thus making them
- >non-lids? :-)
-
- Well, brushing up on the code prior to a re-test and using it daily are
- definitely pineapples and papayas (yum!)
-
- Great name though! ---+
- |
- >Earl Morse <--------+
- >KZ8E
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 94 22:51:28 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Satellites seen from Earth
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- | Hi,
- | I'm an amateur astronomer and often see satellites moving among the stars.
- | I was sure that some of you HAMs would have the coordinates, times, dates of
- |
- | the nightime visible satellites.
- | Would some of you spare some time and forward me this info?
- | My coordinates: long. 68*26, lat.+47*28.
- | I will really appreciate the info.
- | Thanks much.
- | Rachel
- |
- | ------------------------------
-
- Try Traksat.
-
- What is your EMail address?
-
-
- Lowell Brunson (503) 681-0417
- Rosenet: lbrunson@roland.co.jp
- Internet: lbrunson@rodgers.rain.com (preferred)
- lowell@teleport.com
- Packet Radio: KC7DX@K7IQI.OR.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 23:20:41 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mac17@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Sock Size Conversion Chart: Inches/CM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CsJ5tt.K42@wang.com>, dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) wrote:
- >
- > awinterb@du.edu (Art Winterbauer) writes:
- >
- > >I'm not sure why, but in the past week or so, I've had qsos with a
- > >number of people who, in addition to telling me the temperature at
- > >their QTH, have volunteered the size and color of their socks. I
- > >don't know if this is the beginning of a fad, or if I've simply missed
- > >this bit of info in previous qsos, but I am now responding in kind.
- >
- > Art,
- >
- > In many parts of Europe, the word "sock" is a slang term that refers
- > to the external differentiator of the male anatomy, if you get my
- > meaning. So when they are asking your "sock" size, they are really
- > referring to something else. When they ask the "color" of it, they
- > are asking to know if you are gay or not.
-
- I don't believe this topic is covered in any of the ARRL study guides.
- Since you seem to be in the know, could you tell us about the color coding?
- If I say that I am wearing white socks, have I inadvertently indicated an
- interest in some particular sexual activity? Could you perhaps provide us
- with a table of sock colors and what they mean? I can't imagine bringing up
- "sock colors" myself (I still have trouble with the Q codes), but I would
- definitely like to know the meaning of what I am hearing.
-
- Charles
- N9SQE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 16:02:43 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Weather Radio freqs?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- shawnb@ecst.csuchico.edu (Shawn Brown) writes:
-
- >I've noticed that REI and Campmor both sell a nice little radio receiver
- >that picks up some kind of regional weather forecast. I've got a handheld
- >scanner, and I'm wondering if I can pick this up with it. Does anyone
- >know any common frequencies that these weather brodcasts transmit on?
-
- >Shawn
-
- >--
- >S.E.P. Brown | shawnb@ecst.csuchico.edu | http://www2.ecst.csuchico.edu/~shawnb
-
- 162.xx - the xx varies from locale to locale. With a scanner just scan
- from 162.00 to 163.00 and if one is close enought to pickup it will find
- it. Warning - most remote areas are too far from the NOAA stations to
- pickup, the NOAA stations are usually near major airports, and I am not
- aware of repeaters.
-
- --
- Jim Hanks
- jfhanks@xmission.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Jul 1994 00:18:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!dfk@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Weather Radio freqs?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I called our local NOAA station here and they actually sent me a US map
- with all the stations indicated and their frequencies. Of course now I
- can't lay my hands on it!. (It was old anyway).
- Anyway the frequencies are:
-
- *162.400 MHz
- 162.425 MHz
- 162.450 MHz
- *162.475 MHz
- 162.500 MHz
- 162.525 MHz
- *162.550 MHz
-
- The three freq's with the "*" cover 99% of the stations. The other
- freq's are available for future expansion. In travelling around
- the Rockies and Mid-West, I've never heard a station on
- any freq except the "*" ones. With my mobile rig and 2 meter band
- 5/8-wave antenna, most stations can be heard up to 30 miles away,
- and some up to 50 miles. With a handheld scanner and rubber duck
- antenna, you may not do as well. Of course antenna height and
- line-of-sight make all the difference.
-
- Dave N0UVR
- dfk@col.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jul 1994 17:39:15 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!chnews!scorpion.ch.intel.com!cmoore@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vg80k$fe8@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>, <fn$6kiubGEsO066yn@access.digex.net>, <2visoe$hjl@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>
- Subject : Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
-
- In article <2visoe$hjl@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>,
- Matthew Rupert <hoagy@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> wrote:
- >
- >I don't care if I have to learn 13 WPM for my general upgrade.
- >I don't care if it's 20 WPM. I'll learn it if that's what the FCC
- >says I gotta do. >Matt Rupert
-
- Hi Matt, I have a hypothetical question for you. What would you do if
- you tried for hundreds of hours to learn to receive Morse code at 13
- wpm and just could not do it? I can force my brain to function as a
- modem but I know somebody who cannot, and he is otherwise a very
- knowledgable, intelligent person and an asset to the ham community.
-
- 73, KG7BK, OOTC, CecilMoore@delphi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:35:43 GMT
- From: cnn.nas.nasa.gov!wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <wb9omc.773515194@constellation.ecn.purdue.edu>, <CsJLy8.25z@cnn.nas.nasa.gov>, <2vh3i6$2r3@macs.ico.tek.com>
- Subject : Re: Radios for Emergency Use
-
- In article <2vh3i6$2r3@macs.ico.tek.com> hall@macs.ico.tek.com
- (Hal Lillywhite) writes:
- >I see no problems with such technology as long as:
- >1. It is voluntary and
- >2. It does not intrude unduely on the experience of others. I think
- >a good rule of thumb would be that the radio should provide no more
- >intrusion than two members of the same party talking to one another.
-
- That sounds reasonable, but I will let it float a while longer.
- The question will come defining intrusion.
-
- >> The fact is that some organizations who lead trips forbid
- >>the use of some of this technology. (Period.)
-
- >I was unaware of that. Which organizations? I know the Mazamas
- >actively encourages use of ham radios and has offered classes to
- >help members get licensed.
-
- The Sierra Club, Outward Bound, NOLS, and more and more clubs as you travel
- East. Not all trips mind you, but many. Prohibitions tend to be
- dropped for more severe trips to things like Denali.
-
- >But would the Russian women have lived without the radio? Were they
- >there because they had a radio and thought it would get them out of
- >trouble or would they have been there anyway? Agreed the radio is
- >not a panacea and I hope nothing I have written implies otherwise.
-
- Doubtful, there were other spcial pressures on them (get Sorrow and Storm
- by Bob Craig).
-
- >>I refer to the article in Backpacker "Galen Rowell [a noted climber and
- >>photographer] Almost Killed Me" and Rowell's side bar response. I doubt
- >>Hal would like a similar "Hal (or me or any rec.radio poster name)
- >>Almost Killed Me" net.post.
- >
- >I don't suscribe to _Backpacker_. Could you summarize please?
-
- I don't either.
- Basically, an Easterner took a trip in early winter and got frostbite
- and hypothermia. His title was in slight jest, but the editors saw fit to
- inform Rowell and get his opinion.
-
- Richard has just made a similar disclaimer to the Half Dome conservatism
- estimates on travel. That is a wise choice.
-
- --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
- Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
- {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
- My 2nd favorite use of a flame thrower is the remake of "The Thing."
- A Ref: Uncommon Sense, Alan Cromer, Oxford Univ. Press, 1993.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 01:55:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wa2ise@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <ZcP6kiubGcgV066yn@access.digex.net>, <2vg6vg$a31@nic.scruz.net>, <2vg80k$fe8@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>charne
- Subject : Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
-
- Listen to 14.313 MHz sometime.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #765
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